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Foghladha
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Posted On: 12/07/2011 at 01:33 PM
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You can now mail your own characters cross faction.

I have tested this and you can send:

Materials, Items, Currency, and yes even Defiant Only / Guardian Only items.

What this means for you.

Defiants can now use a broker toon to fill Guardian Orders. Simply craft the item defiant side, send it to your guardian alt, and mail it to the recipient on the Guardian Side.

The Family can now cross family funds over to help the other side obtain vaults.

We are able to have defiants donate materials by transferring them to a Guardian alt and then sending them to the Donation Manager.

You can send your alts snowflakes on either side.

The best part about this is that it even more so reduces the communication barrier between our rooms of the house.

Enjoy!

» Edited on: 2011-12-07 13:35:42

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SgtPepper
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Replied On: 12/07/2011 at 02:45 PM PST

Outstanding! This will also be a welcomed change for alot of folks that may have been playing the different side for a long time and have tons of previous world event currencies saved. Also, it finally allows the "bind to account" items to be bound fully. :)

» Edited on: 2011-12-07 14:47:04

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Hopeful
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Replied On: 12/07/2011 at 03:14 PM PST

Oh this is awesome news for crafters!! Joy! thank you Trion!

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Lumenbarba
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Replied On: 12/07/2011 at 03:51 PM PST

Point of clarification... will funds and goods from one guild (the results of tithing/donations) be shipped to the other? What individuals do is fine by me, and I think it's great to have 2 guilds that share the same values, but for some of us Guardian is Guardian and Defiant, Defiant, not one huge family. I wouldn't like to see funds from one guild go to another, nor would I like to see world PVP cooperation (unless you are looking at setting up a time and place for a battle) between opposing guilds.

» Edited on: 2011-12-07 15:52:35

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Replied On: 12/07/2011 at 04:29 PM PST
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Question... Is armor and weapons faction specific? Can I make a weapon on the Guardian side with my crafter and mail it my Defiant (assuming I have one)? And assuming I can mail it... I guess the question is... Can they use it? Very Curious Treaa

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Replied On: 12/07/2011 at 04:32 PM PST
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Just read this and thought WOOT all those blue orders that i used to be sad i couldnt do any thing about now i can :) If people start getting things from Hairy the dwarf its a gift from those of us on the good looking side ;)

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Hopeful
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Replied On: 12/07/2011 at 07:49 PM PST

Lumenbarbra. Im baffled. Seriously. I didnt even know there were people in Gaiscioch with that mindset. This is a family its not two different guilds.

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FairybellaFawny
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Replied On: 12/07/2011 at 08:06 PM PST

Lumen...we do not allow crossrealming in pvp. No spying either. If anyone is caught farming favor (pvp points) off each other you will not be happy with the results that will come down from leadership upon you. As for there being 2 different guilds - no, this is ONE guild, one Family, and the PLAYER is a member...not their characters, regardless of faction. Remember, this is not a traditional guild in any old game...this is a Social Gaming Community. We prize and value the individual behind the screen...not their toons. Rift the game allows us to mail between factions, and to have 2 factions on the same server...so Gaiscioch does that. But again...no crossrealming to farm favor. We encourage players to gather their extra mats on the guardian side of the game so they can be mailed in for donation. We will also share funds between factions if necessary or desired. Also, players can use any side faction crafter they have in order to process marketplace orders. They way you do that is to mail the finished product to a correct faction alt and ship the order that way.

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Izzy
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Replied On: 12/07/2011 at 08:07 PM PST
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I very much agree Hope. We are not two separate guilds, we are one family. I was excited to be able to share my crafting skills with the rest of my family.

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Foghladha
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Replied On: 12/07/2011 at 08:09 PM PST
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Lumenbarbra, I'm sorry man thats not how we work. The Defiant side is an extension of our body. You wouldn't put a glove on one hand and ignore the other. Unless you Michael Jackson of course. We are in this together. The Defiant side has significantly more epic materials makers than the guardian side so under the same scope they should ignore the Guardian side and keep those orders open. Sorry man thats not how we work. We help each other. Theres no Guardian or Defiant in this family, theirs Gaiscioch. We are both factions, we are one family. Thats how we roll and thats how we will always roll.

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Replied On: 12/07/2011 at 10:18 PM PST
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I saw this and tears came to my face. I can send matts from one to the other and fill orders on both sides, I was so happy!! I sent all my epic materials already to ppl lol. yahoo

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Jexia
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Replied On: 12/08/2011 at 12:58 AM PST

Lum, we are not a guild we are a family. My defiant toons are no longer in the family to cut down on confusion but they will still be around. I really am happy the defiant part of the family will still be going forward. I decided to play strickly guardian mainly for health reasons. I started out in this family as guard so I decided to return. However if anyone ever needs anything just let me know. Jexia, (Kalend)

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Lumenbarba
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Replied On: 12/08/2011 at 04:04 AM PST

Hopeful: no need to be offensive. It should hardly be surprising that in an MMO based on two sides at a constant state of war that people might not like to support the other side, you can play a game and respect (and treat with respect) your opponent. I was fine when I thought we were two sides following the same values... I'm not fine with us being one entity with a foot in both sides of a war (we dwarves are pretty black and white like that). Fog: thanks for the clarification, that's all I wanted, not any drame. It's your decision and I'm pretty sure the bulk of the guilds will go by it. One guild on both sides is just not something I feel comfortable being a part of, but I truly do respect the time and effort you put into this guild and server. So I'll quiestly fade away and wish everyone on both sides (since outside of the game we are all players and on the same side :-)) good luck.

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Replied On: 12/08/2011 at 08:32 AM PST
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If you read up on the Telara Saga angle were playing even roleplay wise makes sense. I never took you as an rper but in times of civil war there are often people in the middle trying to stop the endless hate and war.

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Wildflower
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Replied On: 12/08/2011 at 10:14 AM PST

I am looking for someone who has characters on both Defiant and Guardian who would be willing to let me craft things for Defiant members, send it to them Guardian side, then they can send to their Defiant side and distribute the item? I have NO desire to play Defiant at all, even if it is just to grind a toon out of the starter area to be a delivery mule. I truly want to help out on making things that have been backlogged on the Defiant side for a long time though, I just need some help in the Pony Express department. Any takers?

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Replied On: 12/08/2011 at 11:52 AM PST
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I'd be willing to use some of my time working a Pony Express. I know quite a few of us do have toons on both sides. I may not play Briseadh anymore, but I'm not ever deleting/moving her either. She's going to be my Guardian side delivery person and like I said, I'm willing to spend the time hopping on her daily to see if things need transferring to Defiant for those like Wildflower who do not have a Defiant alt. How I would like to see the message body: In the body say who the item is to be mailed to on the Defiant side. If multiple items in one mail to different toons, list which goes where - might as well save someone some bit of mailing coin. ;) Example: "ITEM NAME" to "CHARACTER NAME". - each on its own line as best mail allows. =) On the defiant side the mails will come from the well known Ladasach with the info of who made it for them. Now if you are a Defiant and don't have a guardian alt - I'll take thing on Ladasach and mail them to the Guardian via Briseadh making sure they know who made it. NOTE: The website will also tell you when an order is filled and by whom via the player id on this website. Anyone having issues with me being the Pony Express, let me know. =D I like doing things to help out the family. Besides I don't think the high level officers should have this task added on top of what they need to do already. =D They will be moving things around enough with contributions, the behind the scenes ever revolving mail bank, etc.

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Replied On: 12/08/2011 at 01:22 PM PST

Wildflower, I can do this as well. Fairybella on G-side, Fawny on D-side.

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Replied On: 12/08/2011 at 02:18 PM PST

@ Wildflower and any other crafters willing to make cross-faction items: My guardians are Hypocrita/Maelystra Defiants Astraiel/Henryb/Malkuth and Nisgaa @Lumenbarba Rift is the Ascended of both factions against the cults and their leaders. This has been clarified in patch 1.6 if you're into reading/listening to the NPCs and the lore items we pick up. What you say sort of surprises me though, because there's been more than a few times I've seen you in a tight spot and helped you out, and you've done the same for one of my D-side toons. Not during a community event either. This incidents were out in the wilds of the world. most recently in EI. lol Sorry to see you leave, if that's your intention, gl wherever you land, but you're not going to find a better family than this.

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Wildflower
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Replied On: 12/08/2011 at 03:05 PM PST

Thanks all for volunteering! I have sent my first Pony Express items to Briseadh. Hurray!!

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Lumenbarba
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Replied On: 12/10/2011 at 04:42 AM PST

I'm not a 'roleplayer' by how the roleplayers on this server define roleplaying (if you've ever seen them berating people on 50 chat, the roleplayers on this server - or at least the vocal ones - are a lot more intolerant of roleplayers than the non roleplayers). But it is a character I play, and sometimes I won't do a quest because it doesn't seem in character, or I'll do something in a bit of a different way. I've been pen and paper roleplaying since the early eighties so I'm quite used to number crunching one minute, playing a character the next. Game theory and design interest me as well. And this is probably more where the objection comes in. There are two sides at war within this mmo (there has not been a patch up in Ember Isle, there is a joined area where enemies have seen common sense, and 4 areas where being the wrong race could get you killed. There are lots of problems that occur when enemies start organising things together, rewards are balanced for some activities in the expectation that there will be fighting. You can say that people must play to the best of their ability in PVP, but if you regard this as one guild, people will make mistakes, it clogs decision making - they may attack the non guild players, rather than taking out a key guild opposition faction player (like a healer). They may not interfere in world PVP if it's a guild member on the opposite faction, where they may normally. I was contemplating the Defiant faction leader takedown, I wanted to do it, but was wondering why it was on the guild web page, and there was no discussion of PVP screeners. I know if the Defiants wanted to take my leader down, I'd want to defend regardless of who the guild is. My philosophy is to treat all Guardians the same, regardless of guild. I know that some in the guild don't have that philosophy, I've had a non-guilded alt abused by a guild member, and I've seen people kicked from the guild for abusing someone in a group, then reinvited by someone else an hour later because "it was OK it wasn't a guild member". I assumed (hoped?) it was dealt with later on, but the fact remains their are many people who are part of the guild who hold people to higher standards when dealing with guild mambers. With Guardians, if they are near an artifact/node/quest item killing something, I'll help them kill it and see whether they wand the node. With Defiant, I'm liable to just grab it. I don't want to have to check guild affiliation (indeed, I am unlikely to read it before I act). If there is a Defiant flagged I don't want part of my decision making process to be "are they in my guild", and I definitely don't want to abandon my leader to Defiants if they happen to wear the right tag. Sure I might help a Defiant in a Rift or a group invasion, but that benefits me, and again, I won't be looking at tags. There was no Defiant guild when I first joined, I have no interest in contributing to it even though I am glad it exists. Having the Guardian guild contribute to the Defiant one is like turning guild repairs on for raiders - sure there are raiders in the guild, people wish them well, they'd love repairs paid for. But with so many not going down that path of activity it would be unfair to benefit a few out of the pockets of everyone. Anyway, I've rambled on enough. The decision isn't mine to make, and I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, just let loose my thought processes. Stating it's one guild, Guardian and Defiant, crosses a line that I'm not comfortable with and so has an adverse effect on my game play. I don't want to worry about Guardians, Defiants and Gaiscioch Defiants. So I've moved on, and I wish everyone the best.

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