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UPDATED: NEW ATTENDANCE RULES PLEASE READ - Roster, Info, Loot Info, Signups for Greenscale's Blight, River of Souls, and Hammerknell

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Posted On: 05/04/2011 at 02:20 PM

Raid nights and times:
Wed 6 PM Server/PST
Fri 6 PM Server/PST
Sun 5 PM Server/PST
Tues 6 PM Server/PST *if necessary*

Invites start about 15 minutes before start time. There are no guarantees about holding raid spots if you are not present when invites start. Likewise, if you receive an invite and do not accept or are currently in a group, then it is your responsibility to contact me for another invite. There's simply too much for me to keep track of at the start time to notice who accepted and who did not.

Finally, for those in the Roster, if you cannot attend a normal raid night then I need you to either send me an in-game mail or an email (it's on my profile in this website) letting me know that you'll be absent. If anyone has multiple occasions where they simply do not show up without contacting me, then I will assume that you no longer wish to raid on a regular basis and move you to the Reserve list. We have a very large number of people patiently waiting on the Reserve list for a chance to raid consistently with us. It is unfair to those people that I hold regular spots for those who cannot regularly attend.

Due to the ability to buy Tier1 Raid gear with the new Marks system in RoS, GSB, and GP; the following changes have been implemented for GSB and RoS. Note: Normal loot rules will apply in Hammerknell.

All non-weapon loot will have no loot modifier nor will they consume your loot modifier when you win the item.

However, we will limit each individual to 1 NEED loot roll win a day. If everybody passes on the NEED roll for another item(s) and it is an upgrade for you, then you can still win the item at that time.

Epic quest item Heart of Greenscale will now consume a loot modifier and will use loot modifier in calculations.

For those interested in participating then please sign up in this thread and send me a tell in game on the day of the raid to let me know that you are ready and interested in filling in. Otherwise, I'll never know to invite you if there are openings available.

The minimum Hit/Focus requirement is 227 for Lord Greenscale. Good luck to everyone and hopefully we'll see you soon. :)

5/5 GSB
5/5 RoS

UPDATED WITH ROSTER LISTS

Zoink +100 Legendary
Tirin +100
Pnub +100
Inixia +100 Quest
Bentmer +70
Neha +100
Lybra +60 Legendary
Zavrin +100
Soddi +100
Solarity +100
Isthon +100 Legendary
Noir +60 Legendary Quest
Alondite +70 Legendary
Robry +100
Parak +30 Legendary Quest
Pyrefly +60 Quest
Mijjah +60
Cossack +10 Quest
Glynt +70
Deidana +50 Legendary
Lumina +10 Legendary Quest
Ravenclaw +30 Legendary

Reserves
Speros +60
Platypus +10
Nomadsoul +10
Wulfiene +10
Arbovitae +10
Smokem +10
Jandrea +10
Nagato +10
Charlatan +100
Loraxia +50
Jetch +20
Twila +40
Saralandrielle +100
Xhao -70
Cordite -30 Quest
Gathisa -70
Archy +50
Temptatia +10
Don +10
Lakshmi +10
Skron +10
Nahli +20
Richtor
Kerixous
Enoeht
Klumster
Elsimer
Rayvana
Morah


INACTIVE/OTHER RAID GROUP
Ironbars -50
Quickben +30
Seigmund +30
Eldris +70 Legendary
Falcon +10
Arasiel +10
Calah +0
Maligor -90
Ninja +20
Cygany +30
Dwooid +20
Ladydarkness +20
Ungodly +10
Kitira +10
Luma -20
Bilne +20
Elitis +10
Lumenbarba +10
Kotsuru +10
Hornell +10
Salexi -10
Thokar +20
Wildflower +30
Lilli +30
Aife
Ashlait
Klorcon
Ellendria
Kaytlyn
Amtel
Tor
Kriggles
Bozulli
Radcliffe

NOTE: The order I'm listing the reserve list is completely random. Don't be too concerned that you're farther down the list.

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Greetings folks,

This post will serve the purpose on updating everyone on the future schedule for Greenscale's Blight raids and other raids of that sort. (Raid rifts, the Gilded Sanctum 10 man raid, etc) It will also outline the loot rules for those who are interested or are affected by them. Finally, it will provide information on how to sign up for these events.

First off, the tentative schedule. This will change based on availability and whenever we get to play in the 10 man raid dungeon. (We will probably devote at least one day to this fun new place when we are able.)

Wednesday - 6 PM PST
Friday - 6 PM PST
Sunday - 5 PM PST

PST is also the server time.
The raiding length of time will be approximately 3 hours give or take a few. I ask that everyone who is in the raid be ready at the start time so we don't have too much delay. Because we raid less than the more hardcore raiding guilds, we must be efficient with the time alloted to us.


*Note these loot rules have changed for GSB and RoS non weapons gear.
Loot rules:

This is always a sensitive subject. I will share my own opinion on this. Progression raids usually mean that the raid is undergeared compared to the dungeon they are in. To ensure success in these dungeons, it is important that the people who get the gear actually use it. Likewise, it is a very costly and time consuming activity and I think there should be some incentive for people to keep showing up and being mangled by raid bosses all the time. However, I do not think DKP is an appropriate thing to use in a casual mature guild/alliance. Nor do I think people who can only raid occasionally should be severely punished in a way that they have no chance of seeing loot at all. Because of all these factors and a few others that I can't fit into a moderately long post, these are the loot rules that I have established.

1> There will be 3 loot rolls when a piece of gear is dropped.

A. The first is the NEED roll. To roll need on an item means that it is an upgrade for you and also that it is for a primary role that you use. That doesn't mean you cannot roll on multiple roles for your character. If you are a tank and a dps, then you should do both. It only means that both those roles should be able to help the raid. In other words, if you are a cleric and you have only green items for tanking, that is not a primary role for you. ;0 Now there is alot of gray area in this and I strongly encourage people to talk it out with each other. We had several people passing in favor of others in the last run and that is how I envision things to go in the future. We are all one big family and I want us to treat each other so. We grow stronger as every one of us grows stronger.

B. The second roll is a GREED roll. This means that you can still use the item but it is not necessarily for a role that you would use in a raid. I love to collect tanking gear and I even have a tanking role. But I don't envision myself getting to tank any time soon. Thus if a tanking item for a cleric dropped and nobody rolled on NEED, I would roll GREED.

C. The third roll is what I like to call the VENDOR roll. If nobody can use an item and people want to either vendor, sell on AH if BOE, or runebreak an item, then they can roll here. Hopefully this will never happen but there may come a day when we look at raid purples and yawn.

2> Secondly, each time a person attends a raid, they will receive a +10 bonus to their roll when rolling for items. In other words, if you attended a previous raid and you were to roll on an item the next time, you would get +10 added to that roll. The maximum added to a roll will be 100, meaning that you cannot go over 200 on any given roll. I put a maximum number because I don't want people to get so big an advantage that others will always be at their mercy to pass for gear. I don't think any of us are like that but it's best not to take chances.

3> When someone wins an item, they will get -50 deducted from their roll. So if I were to win an item one night, I would gain +10 and then lose -50, which would result in a -40 for the next raid night I attend. If another item dropped that I could use, I'd be able to still roll but I'd have a -40 modifier to it. The maximum number to this is -100. I don't want people to be in the red for an eternity just because they got a lucky night lol.

I will post a weekly update on who attended and their roll modifier so that you can keep track of where you are at. This is not a perfect system, but it's what will have to do for now. It will be subject to change or tweaks so don't get all angry at me if things do change. Again, I foresee very few problems with loot because of our maturity level and because we are all really cool people. ;0

Raid signups or When can I come die horribly with you guys?

Ok this is the worst part of being any type of raid leader. Well except for the part where you tell people to trust you that the dragon doesn't really breathe fire and then he does. If it were possible, I would bring everyone and their grandmothers to the raids. But there are only a limited number of slots available and a specific number of slots per role. Because we are currently progressing through content, our margin of error is very very small. Thus, we have to be a little more selective now then we will later when things are on a 'farm' status. It's not about you, so please don't take it personally. In the end, I will try to give everyone their chance to slay Prince Hylas and silence his annoying squeaky voice forever. (well for the 1 week raid timer that is) Until then, I ask for your patience in this matter.

I will post each week, a list of raiders who have signed up for that week's raid. Underneath that list, will be a list of people who wish to be included if the above raiders cannot make it. Because we all have busy lives and conflicting schedules, there will always be people missing from the signed up list. Therefore, I need people to sign up on the reserved list to be ready and able to meet the call when asked. If possible, I will give you at least a few days warning in advance. I realize being on stand by is not the most enjoyable thing in the world and I will do my best to rotate some people in and out when possible. However, it is important to not have mass turnover in a raid group because that would destroy the coordination and chemistry that often decides whether we win or lose.

If you are interested in joining our merry band of raiders, then I ask that you post underneath this post so that I can talk to you in game about your playstyle, time available, favorite ice cream flavor, etc. I will also ask about your Focus/Hit/Toughness/Attack Power/Spell Power/Crit/Underwear. If you are offended by those questions then you probably don't want to sign up. I am not gear checking you, but I do need to know that you will be effective against the raid bosses. Please don't be intimidated to sign up, I will be gentle on you honest. And don't be scared of raid dungeons, the worse thing that can happen is you accidentilly run into a boss prematurely, die instantly, and then watch in horror while everybody else dies because of you. I mean how bad is that? We'll only put it on Youtube and make you famous. In all seriousness, raids are very much fun. There is alot of satisfaction in working together with 18 great players and 1 confused raid leader to kill a very hard boss. I hope to see all of you with me one day.

Anyways, I think I'm done now. At the top of this post you will find an updated roster list including the reserves. If you have any questions at all, then please go ahead and ask me in game. Posting them on the forums is fine also but realize that it's much easier to get all your answers from me in real time. If I don't answer immediately, please resend me a tell. I sometimes lose them in the gaggle of information that scrolls past my screen. I'll also be willing to talk to you in vent too if you prefer that medium.

Good luck to all of you.

» Edited on: 2011-09-05 11:44:45

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Donaliam
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Signing up for Wed and Sun. :)

» Edited on: 2011-05-04 15:54:20

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Replied On: 05/04/2011 at 04:44 PM PDT
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Since we seem to have no shortage of healers, and I'm sure many/most are better geared than me, you should likely put me permanently on the "reserves" list.

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Replied On: 05/04/2011 at 08:03 PM PDT

I am curious if tonight (Wednsday the 4th of May), when we settled for doing a raid rift instead of GSB due to attendance issues, will count towards our roll modifiers for those that attended.

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Signing up for Friday and Sunday

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Bentmer
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Replied On: 05/05/2011 at 01:11 AM PDT

Uhh no Eld, even if we planned to go to Greenscale, it only really counts if we actually go and spend time there. ;0

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signing up for Wednesdays, Fridays, and Sundays (starting next Wednesday - going to be up at my parents' timeshare this weekend)

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I can attend on Friday. Look forward to doing some damage with everyone then.

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Bentmer
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Replied On: 05/05/2011 at 12:29 PM PDT

Updated with roster list and reserve list for this week. Ironbars will begin invites about 30 minutes before start time. Thank you Iron for doing that. I will be on about 10 minutes before pull time and fill whatever vacancies are left. See you all there Friday for the fun. And thank you everyone who has signed up. :)

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Thanks for the roster update Bentmer. I wont be able to make for this Friday but will be there for sure on Sunday.

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Replied On: 05/05/2011 at 03:24 PM PDT

Signing up for Fridays- I can go marksman dps or support on Ninja, but I haaate barding.

» Edited on: 2011-05-15 02:56:55

» Edited on: 2011-05-15 02:57:31

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Sent you an update on my roles in game email Bentmar.

» Edited on: 2011-05-05 16:32:26

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Replied On: 05/05/2011 at 06:50 PM PDT

Will be there friday on Calah as either archon, chloro or whatever you'll need me to do :)

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Hex
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Replied On: 05/06/2011 at 02:39 AM PDT

Mijjah - sent/purifier cleric, back up (can spec warden for raid heals if necessary but prefer priamry role as tank heals/burst/dispels) (yes I do enjoy dispelling :P) We have plans for a second group in 3-4 weeks but it would be good to see a fight or two at first hand prior to that.

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Replied On: 05/06/2011 at 05:06 AM PDT

I will start invites as close to 5:30 PST as possible. If you plan on running any dungeons before hand just keep aware of the time. Lets be ready to actually start pulling right at 6:00 so we can get as far as we can. Make sure you have the enchants, pots, drinks, etc so that you don't have to run out last minute and grab something. I am looking forward to it and think we have an actual legit shot at the 2nd boss if everyone shows up.

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Replied On: 05/06/2011 at 05:47 AM PDT

Would love to, only Friday nights are in the realm of possibility for me though

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Replied On: 05/06/2011 at 09:22 AM PDT
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I would love ot join using Nahli. (rogue) 51 bard spec 51 Rift tank "ish" spec (still learning how it works) 51 MM rdps spec 51 sin/NB melee dps spec 221 hit 122 tough and willing to change a spec if needed

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Bentmer
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Replied On: 05/06/2011 at 11:49 AM PDT

Re-updated list again. If you see me in game, send me a tell guys so I can talk to you about what roles you're comfortable with and stuff. Sometimes I may be AFK, but send me one anyways and I'll respond when I get back. The intention is for this raid group to split one day and form two raid groups when GSB is on farm. Just not sure how far away that is. I've got one spot open at least for tonight. I'll be 15 minutes before start time to see how many slots I need to fill. As Ironbars said, be ready please to start clearing as soon as we can. I'm going to start being more strict on timing as we go on. If you are still in a dungeon 5 minutes before start time, I'll assume you do not want to go.

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Replied On: 05/06/2011 at 04:57 PM PDT

Fiddler will be out tonight so that opens another meele/ranged dps

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Replied On: 05/06/2011 at 05:46 PM PDT

pyro 51 elem 6 chloro 9 chloro archon 15 building a stormcaller/ele spec now too.

» Edited on: 2011-05-06 21:50:09

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Replied On: 05/06/2011 at 09:59 PM PDT

Hey! This is Isthon from tonight's raid (The dude with the bomb-detonating cat) I'd like to officially sign up instead of being that one guy Seigmund brought! I'm currently running 30 Champion/ 24 Beastmaster/ 12 paragon I also run a 51 RB/15 Para for when I need to range! My other 2 spec are pvp related, but I am more than willing to convert one into a tank spec as needed. PS I hope this is the right place to post this, and I'm not just a part of the chain of wrong!

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Replied On: 05/06/2011 at 11:02 PM PDT

Just read through that post and it all sounded fantastic. Great loot rules, I'm a fan of doing it this way. I have 2 internet connections going incase one drops so even though playing from Thailand with 300'ish ms lag, should be OK stability wise. I can wake up early for raid times, 5pm server time is 7am my time, pretty reasonable =) Glad I decided to wake up early today, I was just hoping for a Dungeon run with Seig! Thanks all see you Sunday. -LD

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Replied On: 05/08/2011 at 12:25 PM PDT

Hi Guys Would Love to be added to the reserve list

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Replied On: 05/08/2011 at 08:45 PM PDT

Aife Tank/DPS warrior would love to be added to reserve list. Still in the process of gearing up.

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Replied On: 05/08/2011 at 09:05 PM PDT

Updated roster list. We're almost there on Johlen! Let's keep it up!

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Replied On: 05/09/2011 at 12:36 AM PDT

Sign me up for Wednesdays, Fridays and Sundays as well. My current Main character is Starji lvl 50 Rogue. Primarily focused on ranged DPS and Bard specs. Working on gearing up and learning the raiding ropes.

» Edited on: 2011-05-09 09:07:41

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Replied On: 05/09/2011 at 11:17 AM PDT

Hi there Starji, I'll hit you up in game or send me a tell and we'll talk about what you're comfortable doing and what you're able to do considering gear limitations etc. :) I want to thank everyone who has participated in one our GSB runs. We've had over 30 people come and help us out thus far. I know for those who have not been called to action yet, that things can be frustrating. Please be patient with us, we've only had 3 forays into GSB to this point and we can only mess around with group makeup so much. Last night, we successfully completed all 3 Devastating Bomb stages and got Johlen down to 18%. By being able to do the bomb stages, we have fulfilled the DPS requirement and now need to work on keeping ourselves alive longer. ;0 This was a vast improvement in just over 2 days time from our previous Johlen attempt and I'm confident we'll get even better in the future. Good job everyone and I look forward to seeing you all on Wednesday.

» Edited on: 2011-05-09 11:33:12

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Replied On: 05/10/2011 at 07:53 PM PDT

yeah we did great sunday looking forward to takin this guy down

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Replied On: 05/10/2011 at 08:46 PM PDT

yay group! Sunday was awesome. Staying alive, staying alive...

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Replied On: 05/11/2011 at 11:21 PM PDT

Updated again for Friday's raid. Please be on time so we can get down the trash to Johlen and get some good attempts on him. Good job tonight guys. :)

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Replied On: 05/12/2011 at 08:55 PM PDT

I can run w/ you all on friday, 6PM??

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Replied On: 05/14/2011 at 07:54 AM PDT

I can run wed/fri/sun if ya need a bard/marksmen/ranger

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Replied On: 05/14/2011 at 12:34 PM PDT

Klorcon contact me in game with your preferred roles and stuff. Thank you for posting.

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@BENTMER: I believe we have enough people that we might be able to try to get 2 Raid Groups going per event and I know the Oceanic crew is interested in getting a late night run going as well. If we can get 3 Raid Groups running I'm pretty sure we can generate a lot of attention and hopefully find that jinx quicker. I'd like to see Greenscale go down in the next few weeks with our name on it ;D. You guys are doing a wonderful job and making quite the impression in our community. Keep it up. PS. Send me video please so I can get you guys on the news :D

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just updating - Elsimer is up to 120 toughness and 113 Hit. Still need to accumulate a set of DPS gear but mainly concentrating on learning what I can of the art of being the OT/MT in GSB (best way to learn how to MT is being there)

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Hey folks, I'm new to the guild, and have interest in raiding. Sooo... Hi! A couple things: 1) As I understand it, I should contact Bentmer in game to discuss my gear/interest/role, etc? I prefer DPS, but have t2 gear for healing and DPS, t1 level tanking. DPS stats: Inq/Cab/Sent SP/Cr/Focus 879/445/205 Healing Stats: Sent/Pur/Cab SP/Cr/Wis 895/436/383 2) I know I'm brand new to the guild, and this "advice" wasn't requested, but please take the following in the spirit of trying to help, not any kind of criticism/argument/complaint. What's been started with this guild is really incredible, and I don't see anything other than continued success. It's really cool to see the guild is building it's endgame group, to maybe even two raid groups. I don't doubt that will continue to grow, and I wouldn't be surprised if this community's endgame activity grew to 4 or 5 full raiding groups, maybe more in the future. I think the current loot rules work, particularly for a small group of friends, but my experience leads me to have my doubts folks will be happy in the long term as the family and the associated tuatha group grows. Bentmer, you brought up some good points about traditional DKP "However, I do not think DKP is an appropriate thing to use in a casual mature guild/alliance. Nor do I think people who can only raid occasionally should be severely punished in a way that they have no chance of seeing loot at all." For the previous 5 years, I've been a part of a community raiding organization on an RP server that developed a fair system that addresses the concerns you note, and works for a large community of players from diverse groups (not dissimilar to the tuatha group on Faeblight). Most of the participants in the community consider themselves "casual" or "social" MMO players. Leftovers began as a single, then 2 raid group, and grew from there. They ended up utilizing something called the "Shroud" loot system. I'd encourage you to check out the loot description at http://leftoversraiding.org/index.php/static/56131/leftovers-points-system-%28lop%29.html or just the general site, leftoversraiding.org to see what I mean. See ya in game! (p.s. if you do check out the leftovers site, my forum name there is "Daphyd")

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Replied On: 05/16/2011 at 11:26 AM PDT

I have no idea where to signup but I would like to go. I'm a dps warrior i got close to 500 str 400 dex and 201 hit. lemme go! Ellendria.

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Replied On: 05/17/2011 at 04:59 AM PDT

Ben, I was at +40 before yesterday's raid, and won an item, wouldn't that make me at +10 with my attendance to last night? I have attended the same number of raids as Arasiel did, and yet do not have the same modifier even if we both have won one item in different raid sessions. I R confused :P

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Replied On: 05/17/2011 at 09:29 AM PDT

Calah, Being at 0 is correct. If you were at +40 and won an item (-50) that would drop you to -10, but add the +10 for attending last night and you're back to 0.

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Replied On: 05/17/2011 at 11:37 AM PDT

Actually Blight has been to one more raid then you, so he doesn't have the same modifier. And as Quick pointed out, if you win an item then the correct point modifier for that night is -40. (-50 for winning item, +10 for attending)

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Replied On: 05/18/2011 at 10:34 AM PDT

Ah! that makes it clear, I tought that the cost of an item was -40, which got me confused, now I understand :3 Thanks!

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Bentmer, I would like to join but I'm a little concerned that with the extensive waiting list I might not get a chance. At what point does the waiting list convert into a second raid? Right now there are more people on reserve than there are in the raid itself.

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Replied On: 05/19/2011 at 01:39 PM PDT

A couple of points: 1> The second list is a RESERVE list. It is not a waiting list. The people in the second list are much like reserves in an athletic team. They make themselves ready when they are called upon but they may never get that call. Half of those people on that list are not even in our guild, but have answered the call when asked. Many of the people on the reserve list are not available at the time of the raids. Some still have some work to do gear wise. When there are openings, I ask the people on the list who are online and let me know they are ready to go. 2> We are in progression now. If you are unfamiliar with that term, it means that we're still learning the boss fights and attempting to kill bosses that might be above our gear level. Until we move from progression to a 'farm' stage, the primary raid group will not split up. I wrote quite extensively why this is the case, but if you don't want to wait or do not agree then... 3> You might need to form your own raid group. There is enough interest I'm sure. There are many people who have some experience already in GSB with the first group. Nobody is stopping anyone from making that second raid group themselves. I certainly am not. But if you are saved to the raid ID of the second group, you cannot be asked to join the first group for that week. I try to fit people in when I can and when it's possible. That reserve list has many people who have already been, some multiple times. Those who have not gone, some have been asked but could not make it due to time constraints or other commitments. That's the best I can do for now. I've said it before but let me reiterate: On raid nights, you need to let me know that you are able and willing to go if necessary. I will ask those who communicate that with me first. I don't have the available time to look up every single person and ask them personally most days. Just a short tell is good enough. Thank you and good luck.

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Bentmer - I'm sorry if my post came across as a critique - the fact that you have put this thing together at all and managed to progress through nearly to the end speaks volumes about your leadership skills and dedication. My intent was to point out that there appear to be enough people on the 'reserve' list to form another completely separate raid. I will not run a raid now or ever again - my one experience in that role taught me that I don't have the temperament or patience to deal with the political aspects of leading that many people. I do have some concern with the stratification that might be caused, but I can't think of a better way to do it ("it" being "endgame raids") - you've put a lot of thought into how you can make T3 raids work, and you've also put a lot of effort into an attempt to make your events as accessible to everyone as possible. The only thing further I can provide to this discourse would be to say to anybody interested in heading a second weekly raid that I would be interested in joining. Based on the Hit/Toughness/Focus metric my gear is fine (although as mentioned previously I do have some reservations with my overall DPS - I could definitely benefit from some solid T2 weapons).

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Replied On: 05/19/2011 at 09:55 PM PDT

You have nothing to apologize for Myth. There was nothing that you said that I construed as critical and even if you were being critical, that's entirely your prerogative. I just wanted to clarify a few things so that people don't get the wrong idea. We do have alot of people on the reserve list. But a good number of them are not actually in Gaiscioch. And anyone who wishes to put together another group will always have my support and blessing. Just remember that you can't cross raid groups on a given week, raid timers prevent you from joining one GSB run and then switching to the other. And you're absolutely correct that the situation is far from ideal. I am just trying to make the best out of the current situation. There's not really much I can say besides to ask for patience. While it may seem we are almost at the end of progression in GSB, truthfully we are just barely three weeks in and have a long ways to go still. However, we are making very good progress and it gives me hope that we will be able to split into multiple raid groups in the not so distant future. Until then, I really have no good answers for you. I can only say that if you are interested in coming to this group then be on when we are forming up and give me a tell that you are ready to join. That way if there are openings available, I can know who I can ask to come. P.S. Right now the minimum requirements for GSB are 220 Focus/Hit. We need the higher hit/focus for Greenscale himself.

» Edited on: 2011-05-19 22:05:44

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I thought this might be a good tool to mention for those serious about tanking GSB (or tanking in general). I've made use of some of Ciderhelm's (slightly modified) builds and macros and have found his discussion of abilities, rotations, etc to be of great use. http://youtu.be/mnW0Y-iMzkM

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Replied On: 05/20/2011 at 02:56 PM PDT

I'd like to be put on the list....200 focus...Can DPS or OH

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Replied On: 05/26/2011 at 02:11 AM PDT

Updated roster and dates for GSB and RoS nights.

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Replied On: 05/26/2011 at 08:25 AM PDT

I am going to add my name to the very very long list. I am a transfer here to Gaiscioch and Faeblight from Harrow where I was Greenscale raiding. I am comfortable and have lead 3 of the Greenscale boss fights and I am ready to get back into raiding. I have not done any of River of Souls or any of the 1.2 10 man raids yet. Spell Power = 975 Spell Crit = 609 Focus = 244 I am DPS (Sc/Ele), or 51 pt Archon (but I am assuming you already have someone designated to run this build), or Chlorlock for healing.

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» Edited on: 2011-05-26 09:04:13

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Raid ready DPS. Please add my name to the list rotation! Thanks

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Replied On: 05/26/2011 at 12:14 PM PDT

Actually the list is not that long. 8 of the people are not in Gaiscioch but have been good enough to help when needed. 4 or 5 are on hiatus, whether voluntary or not. There are at least 5+ people who have conflicting schedules and are not on at raid times. When you take all those factors in account, the list is much smaller. However, the number of vacant slots is very small. Most times, we have 1 maybe 2 slots open. Sometimes this number jumps up to 4 but rarely is the occasion where we have more than 2 openings available. This is why it is important to send me a tell on raid nights to let me know you are ready. When an opening arises, I will invite the first person available, pending the role needed of course.

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Replied On: 05/27/2011 at 02:35 PM PDT

Would Love To Join You guys All Geared up and ready to go Rogue 210-230 Hit Range DPS spec Melee DPS SPec Full Bard SPEc Tank Spec (not ready for GSB, River, or RAids, only about 100 toughness..but working on it) Available Tuesdays PST 2:30pm-11pm, Thursday 930am-6pm, Firday 3PM-12AM, Saturday 11am-8pm, Sunday 930am-6pm

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I would like to throw my name into the hat for raiding. I can certainly come Wednesday and Sunday nights, but I believe I have other commitments for Fridays. I am a Cleric and currently have two specs: Melee DPS/Offheals (Justicar/Shaman/Inquisitor) Melee DPS (Druid/Shaman/Inquisitor) The offheals spec uses the Crystal Vine and Frozen Deep One Tear to generate on the order of 300 HPS while I'm doing maybe 600 to 700 single target DPS and 1100-1300h AOE DPS, so it's a very nice support spec, IMHO. The MDPS does 900ish single target DPS and AOE a little lower than the one mentioned above. When I get a healing spec set up I will note it here. I am intending on getting one formed but I just never seem to have time to do it. And my 4th role will be ranged DPS (probably 51 Inq/x/x). I can get to around 218 focus by hook or by crook. Trying to get a staff with focus to drop and when that does I'll be pretty set as far as T2 gear goes.

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Replied On: 06/02/2011 at 04:20 PM PDT

I'd like to attend If i can :)

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Neha - Mage Support - Open Spec Now - Role Open to respec for raid needs. DPS - Pyro 51 / War 15 Healer - Chloro 51 / Warlock 15 Spell Power: 928 Spell Crit: 678 Focus: 238 Updated Stats for new Gear acquired this past week.

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Just thought I`d throw in my lot - Twila: Rogue Available: Wed, Fri, Sun Hit: 220+ Specs: Marks, Bard, Sab, Nightblade, Riftstalker (undergeared) Prefer Saboteur

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Replied On: 06/03/2011 at 11:22 PM PDT

The list has been updated. I've moved some people who are either not playing currently or in other guilds to the inactive list for now. If I moved you there and you actually still want to come then let me know lol. The raid composition is in flux at the moment as we have had several people disappear or not make it lately. I'd like to congratulate all those people new in the raid who helped defeat Johlen and Aleria tonite. You all did awesome and I'm very very proud of your accomplishments. Thank you for picking up the slack for us. We still have 2 open slots that will be filled on need at the moment. But we may fill them on a more permanent basis as we go forward. Thank you for your time and patience.

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Replied On: 06/04/2011 at 07:19 PM PDT

Might as well throw my name in the hat as well :) Mage, 220 focus Archon/Chloro/DPS

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Replied On: 06/06/2011 at 05:53 AM PDT

I should have posted here a lil while ago sorry :) Archy - Warrior 215+ hit, all top T2 but 2 pieces 165 Tuffness Tank with 10k+ HP

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I am available for raiding on the Friday - 6 PM PST schedule. Rogue DPS or Support 220 hit on Marksman (dps) and Bard (support) 240 hit on Assassin (dps)

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Replied On: 06/13/2011 at 12:47 AM PDT

I'd like to be put back on the Roster List. I needed to take a week off from raiding, but I'm back in full.

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Can you add me to the reserve-only list please? My first commitment is to Wildflower's GP raid but I may be available to fill in as-needed on Weds and Sun. Mage: 858 sp, 597 crit, 204 focus. Chloro 51, Necrolock and SC/EM are roles I'm competent with. Updated 6/25

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go ahead and take me off the list - I'm nowhere near the 227 Hit rating (only 190 at the moment)

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Replied On: 06/16/2011 at 08:10 AM PDT

Please pull Starji from the reserve list. I'm just not playing her like I thought I would and my current main Starko has awhile to go before I'm properly geared up. Thanks, Starko

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Replied On: 06/18/2011 at 01:15 PM PDT

Post has been updated for new loot rules that will apply to RoS and GSB after the new 1.3 patch has hit.

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Replied On: 06/18/2011 at 02:09 PM PDT

just to clarify, all current modifiers will be sticking around, yah? there's no need to go on a mad spending binge before 1.3? ;)

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Replied On: 06/19/2011 at 12:04 PM PDT

Yes, they will still be used for all weapons and carry forward to Hammerknell which will use the old system. These rules only apply in GSB and RoS and for all non-weapon drops.

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can you add Elsimer to the reserve list again? I just hit 159 toughness, currently I have 197 Hit.

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Replied On: 06/22/2011 at 12:18 PM PDT

I will be gone Wednsday 6/22/2011, as I am moving to a new place and won't have internet for a bit, hopefully not too long. I will come back with better internet though :D

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Replied On: 06/22/2011 at 02:54 PM PDT
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I would love a shot at getting involved - dps mage or archon mage as needed.

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Put me in coach! Switch / DPS / Bard / Tank (When I have to be not raid ready for Tankage)

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Replied On: 06/27/2011 at 03:24 PM PDT

Bentmer and all, I will be stepping out from the Wed, Fri raids after tomorrow's GSB run. My new class schedule will be Wed & Fri nights, and Saturday mornings for the next 12 weeks. It has been great raiding with all of you. I will find a raid with a schedule that fits with my classes this quarter.

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Replied On: 06/28/2011 at 11:35 AM PDT

i have 5 roles on my character tanking gear with 165 toughness and 11.4k Hp Ranged sabo with 245 hitpoints and 35 perrcent crit . i reach 800 dps on practice boss dummy .working on getting it up by pvp items and other stuff bard spec melee sab spec for melee friendly fights another sabo pvp spec Can u put my name in the above list? Can't we run two groups instead of one?this will give us newcomers some chance into raiding.Every body wants to see what the end game has to offer.we have a huge number of people who are eligible for raids yet are forced to sit out.You don't want to see a guild where a few people are running raids while others have to sit.end result is that a natural rift will develop between the raiders and non raiders.Forgive me for my intrusion.

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(Not speaking for Bentmer, but just trying to point out and hopefully clarify a few things) Ray: 1. I think you need to mention your in-game character's name or Bentmer won't know who you are! 2. There are multiple groups running Greenscale - at least 3 - there's this group, there's the Leftovers group, and Nomadsoul's group. Bentmer's doesn't use the website calendar but the other ones do. And there may be other groups too that I'm not aware of. 3. As for the large roster shown above, due to many people having busy schedules there are rarely more than 20 people around who want to raid. So while a person may sit out now and then, it's much more common to start one of these raids with 19 people. 4. That said... I do not know what Bentmer's philosopy is on rotating new people in. You would have to ask him, since he is the man in charge. 5. If none of the existing groups work for you, it's always possible to start another. I say this with complete sincerity. I suspecct that's how many of the groups were formed, by people who wanted to raid but who wanted to do it on their own schedule. While starting a group from scratch can be daunting, and requires perseverance, it's not impossible. Sadly, there's no coordinated post showing what raiding is going on, you sort of have to absorb it by interacting with people in guild and alliance, and by keeping an eye on the message boards here.

» Edited on: 2011-06-29 10:08:26

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Replied On: 07/01/2011 at 09:11 AM PDT

From Bentmer, "If you are interested in joining our merry band of raiders, then I ask that you post underneath this post..." I would like to be added Bentmer's waiting list. My in-game name is Belania, Cleric with all roles, 2 x healing (raid and single target), 2 x dps (ranged and melee) and tank. Thanks, Brad

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Replied On: 07/01/2011 at 10:01 AM PDT

From Bentmer, "If you are interested in joining our merry band of raiders, then I ask that you post underneath this post..." I would like to be added Bentmer's waiting list. My in-game name is Waleran, Cleric with some roles, 1 x healing (raid and single target mix), 2 x dps (ranged and melee).

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Replied On: 07/02/2011 at 03:58 AM PDT

Hey Bentmer, I am interested in raiding with you whenever you have openings. I am a warrior with capped / epic gear for both tanking and DPS. I am currently in Opaline's GSB so can not go on that raid unless it will not effect my lock out for that group. However, I have no raid group for GP or RoS. I have experience on the first two bosses of GP but have not yet been to RoS. Please send me a tell in game for more information or if you ever have an open spot. Thanks!

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Replied On: 07/10/2011 at 05:48 PM PDT

I would like to be added to bentmer's waiting list. My in-game name is Klumster, warrior, 2xdps roles (dw/2h), and 3 tanking roles. Meet all hit requirements and have been in each instance as of now, but never fully completed any atm. Please send me a tell in game for more information if you ever hae a spot open.

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Replied On: 07/11/2011 at 08:51 AM PDT
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I would like to be added to the reserve list. I now meet or exceed the requirements for Hit and Toughness on my warrior for my tanking roles and dps role (2h)

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Replied On: 07/11/2011 at 01:44 PM PDT

I have updated the original post to reflect the addition of an optional Tuesday raid night. This will be added at my discretion for the purpose of completing RoS progression. Also I have made some necessary changes to the attendance rules to reflect both the growing number of people who are willing and able to fill in regular Roster spots and the necessity of having rules in place dictating when and how new Roster spots come available.

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Replied On: 07/12/2011 at 02:55 PM PDT

Instead of everybody piling up on this group why not join another raid group.sign up with nomadsoul's or opaline's group.You will have better chance of doing raids since as bentmer says his group is already nearly full.Btw Bentmer you are doing good work .

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Replied On: 07/13/2011 at 01:14 AM PDT

A few things Ray, 1> Not everyone who signs up wants to raid consistently. Some sign up here for the chance to come raid with us when they can and when we have room. 2> This is a signup for coming to this raid group on our raid nights. It does not preclude people from going to other raid groups at all. People can come and go as they please, I am not dictating to anyone about who they can or cannot raid with. If they are locked out of a raid for that week because they went with another group, I have no problem with that. 3> Again, this is a post about signups for this raid group. If you want to get your own group started or encourage others to join another one, then by all means make a new post doing so. But please don't do it here, it has no place in this thread. It is good see that you are trying to get people ready for raiding. You should be applauded for your efforts. But keep in mind that our policy in this guild is still 'Play what you like, when you like, for how long you like.' Be careful that you are not projecting your own playstyle on others. Not everyone wants to be a full time raider and they have lots of things besides raiding that keep them busy and having fun.

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Replied On: 07/27/2011 at 01:41 PM PDT
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Hey Bentmer, Was talking with Solarity regarding your raid group. I'd be interested in coming along if you can find room for me. Run both melee and ranged dps specs as a rogue. Just let me know if you need me =)

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Replied On: 07/27/2011 at 01:47 PM PDT

Same, just talked with Solarity about joining the raid group. I have a variety of roles available on my mage (chloro/archon/stormcaller). If it's not possible to join tonight that's fine.

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Replied On: 07/27/2011 at 11:38 PM PDT

Our normal raid nights are Wed, Fri, and Sun. 6 pm server on Wed and Fri and 5 pm server on Sun. If you are interested in coming one of those nights as a reserve, just send me a tell when I'm on before the raid start time. If we have openings, then I'll invite you. Unfortunately, I can't really promise you a spot ahead of time because I have no way of knowing how many people will show up. But if there are spots available, then you are welcome to join. Also, you might want to send me a tell whenever I'm on so I can discuss what roles you are comfortable with and the state of your gear. Since we are clearing GSB and RoS now and will be venturing into Hammerknell, we do need people with relatively good gear for our further progression. However, there are some roles that are less gear intensive than others and most of our newer raid members fill those roles as they learn the fights and improve their gear.

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Replied On: 07/29/2011 at 02:22 PM PDT

Hey Bentmer, I'd like to join your band. Warrior, can tank or dps as you want. I also have a raid ready cleric, main speced heals but I can adapt. I'm available for your group, devoted, quick learner and great follower. Let me show you what I'm capable of. I will keep my toons usaved until I can get a shot.
» Edited on: 2011-08-26 11:54:56

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Replied On: 08/10/2011 at 01:32 PM PDT
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Well this will be last week I can attended as Neha (Mage) few things changing in my schedule summer break over in 2 weeks and playing mage is not as fun as it once was for me at least. I will try and be available for backup when I can, but going to focus on my original main MikeyDee - Warrior now. Neha was always my daughter's toon and the first to 50 and was really fun learning T2's and doing Raids with you all. But I just really enjoy my tank and dps more on MikeyDee. Going to let my daughter have fun again on the toon as it seemed I was playing it more then her most days due to people needing good chloro in raids. Also Rift is going to be hard for me to renew come September with SWTOR on the horizon.

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Replied On: 08/12/2011 at 09:28 AM PDT

Hi, could you add Farstrider to the list please, mainly dps, do have bard spec etc T2 geared, love to get into raiding, do work shift work so schedule does change week to week, but send me a tell and lets take it from there please

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Okay I updated the Event for participation all those that helped this week down GSB completely you can check it off now. I modified the 1 event to have the FRI/SUN/TUE bosses done. Thanks again all for coming to help us clear that dungeon while Bentmer and Lumina on vacation.

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Replied On: 08/31/2011 at 03:21 PM PDT

Just a query here : as we were on a raiding vacation and had the odd casual raid which was mostly not our raid crew, would it be fair to even update as it was all unofficial? And if so, would we not also include the GSB Lumi ran the week before as well? I was under the impresion from the note I got from Bentmer that we were taking a break, so I didn't show up!

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Replied On: 09/02/2011 at 09:22 PM PDT

I'd be interested in having my name added to the Reserve List. My most practiced roles are SC/Ele and 51 Chloro. Focus: 231 ; SP: 1036. I'm on most nights for gear check / parse. Thanks!

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GSB run for Aug 31 and Sept 2nd post now for claiming. Again thanks all for coming and downing him again.

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Replied On: 09/03/2011 at 08:39 PM PDT

Signing up for all nights shifting work times but know when i work 2 weeks ahead of time. Ps was fun at gsb with all of yall

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Replied On: 09/04/2011 at 10:47 PM PDT

Wulfiene here. I've been in on the last couple raids with you guys (9/4 - RoS, 9/2 - GSB) and just learned of this thread as well as the attendance points system. I'm posting here so that my attendance can start getting counted. Looking forward to downing some more. Congratz Pyrefly on your epic staff!

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Replied On: 09/05/2011 at 12:55 AM PDT

I don't think you are getting attendance points for the raids (apart from family points which are claimed elsewhere), as it is not Bentmer's run, just people doing a great job and using the slots to give others in the guild a chance to see GSB while Bentmer's team is on hiatus.

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Replied On: 09/05/2011 at 11:13 AM PDT

Bentmer is back. He led the RoS run last night. If this isn't the proper thread to be added to the list so we're given attendance credit, could someone direct me to the correct one? Thanks, Wulf

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Replied On: 09/05/2011 at 11:50 AM PDT

No this is the correct post Wulf, thank you for posting. I have credited you for last nights run and more importantly, you are now on the short list for slots when they are available. This thread has gotten to 100 posts and is getting a bit ungainly lol. I will retire this thread and make a new one. The new thread will include new schedules for Hammerknell, River of Souls, and Greenscale's Blight. I will explain in further detail in the new post but GSB will officially be used as a recruitment and gearing up run from this point forward. This will probably mean that those of you who are interested in raiding with us should always have the opportunity to run with us in either GSB or RoS until such time that you are geared enough to do Hammerknell. I'm still a bit out of it from vacation so the new post will come up later tonite. Until then, please continue to post your name if you are interested in coming along. Thanks for your interest. On a side note, big thanks are due to Lumina, Mikeydee, Pyrefly, and everyone else who helped organize the runs in my absence. Thank you all for your excellent work.

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