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Coming Soon: Artisan Points & New Currency: Resources

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Foghladha
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Posted On: 01/24/2011 at 11:33 AM
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Hey Guys,
Thought I'd let you know a little gem im working on. With the launch of RIFT we have something Awesome and new to play with. A CRAFTING System! :D OMG they have these in games? :D hehe. So we will have a new type of Family Honor Point Coming into the mix.

Artisan Points
Will be earned through filling order requests by other players.

I am developing a new section which will be a lot like the family vault system. Players will select an item they would like made and then request the item like they do on the Family Vault now. This request will be seen by the crafter's of our family. Whoever fills the request will gain points based on the difficulty of the recipe.

  • Green = 10 Artisan Points + 10 Donor Points | Costs 1 Family Vault Token to Order

  • Green + Bonus = 15 Artisan Points + 15 Donor Points | Costs 2 Family Vault Tokens to Order

  • Blue = 25 Artisan Points + 25 Donor Points | Costs 3 Family Vault Tokens to Order

  • Blue + Bonus = 30 Artisan Points + 30 Donor Points | Costs 4 Family Vault Tokens to Order

  • Purple = 50 Artisan Points + 50 Donor Points | Costs 5 Family Vault Tokens to Order

  • Purple + Bonus = 55 Artisan Points + 55 Donor Points | Costs 6 Family Vault Tokens to Order

Consumables will be in stacks of 20.

I am also working on another style of points for resource gathering which will tie into the same system. Haven't flushed out the details yet. Looking into an alternative currency which can be bought with Family Vault Tokens in stacks of 100 called "Resources". These would be used to buy materials. They would be able to put in a request for resources and the person that fills the request would get Donor points. Here's what I have in mind.

1 Resource Per Resource Point (1:1 Ratio)
25 Wood would cost 25 Resources

So for each Family Vault Token you would gain 100 Resources at your disposal. For donations you will gain 1 Donor Point per resource donated. I'll have it all flushed out soon and hopefully have a working example.


» Edited on: 2011-01-24 11:34:33

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Ban Caomhnoir de na Ulchabhan
Cedrissa
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Replied On: 01/24/2011 at 12:42 PM PST
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I love crafting and look forward to trying out whatever RIFT has to offer in that respect. This looks like it'll be a very cool addition *very big grin*

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Taoiseach de na Arach Glas
Foghladha
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Replied On: 01/24/2011 at 12:50 PM PST
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I figure people who love to craft should have a way of leveling up in the family too :).

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Sothogaram
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Replied On: 01/24/2011 at 02:00 PM PST

Hmm... Keep hearing too much good about Rift, and starting to think I didn't give it enough of a chance.. Well, guess Iso and I will be giving the beta tomorrow another go and see what grows from the seeds.

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Tiarna de na Capall Oráiste
Celebtyr
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Replied On: 01/24/2011 at 02:03 PM PST
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oooooooooooh! Mesa like it! The thing i miss the most from swg, apart from Deep Space combats, is the fiendishly complex crafting. Though Rift doesn't gets even remotely close, its damn refreshing for those like me that likes to do his/her own stuff, as well as supplying the guild :)

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Saighdiuir de na Capall
Dreamchaser
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Replied On: 01/24/2011 at 04:19 PM PST
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Oh dear... I have a love/hate relationship with crafting. I do wish the crafting was more like LotRO's, though, with the ability to make stuff that is just as good as the stuff dropped in raids.

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Feawin
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Replied On: 01/25/2011 at 12:49 AM PST

That's very nice. My only concern would be that some artisans tend to pre request guildies to take business only to them or save resources for them. I dont assume anyone is going to do that in advance, but I have seen it in almost every guild I have ever been.

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Murchadh
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Replied On: 01/25/2011 at 01:22 AM PST

Sounds pretty nice to me, being an addict for crafting ever since DAoC. Regarding Feawin´s apprehension, it is a point in a lot of guilds, truely. Positive about it, you have some people mastering crafting early. This provides best potions/weapons/etc. at the soonest. (Potential) Negative: You might just have supported someone, who then decides to turn the back on you and the guild. It has happened. I know only one sensible way to handle the whole trade and crafting business. In a grown-up guild, acting amongst adults, you just do not spit into the Stew Cauldron, if you catch my drift. That exactly is how and where I want to set up my tent(no squirrels allowed). Slainte Mhath!

» Edited on: 2011-01-25 01:23:05

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Gypse
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Replied On: 01/25/2011 at 08:02 AM PST
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I will tell everyone this. I am going to try to be Daddy Warbucks in this, and hored everything. Send me the mats and i will supply you with what you need. I will be a outfitter, Armorsmith, and weaponsmith. Keggan will cover everything else. So get out there and gather, gather, gather. LOL just joking its all fair game.

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Taoiseach de na Arach Glas
Foghladha
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Replied On: 01/25/2011 at 08:57 AM PST
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Actually MR. Block, I believe that this system is going to counter Horders :P. It's not going to be a hey send me all your materials thing. It's going to be a Blocked Requests: 20 Iron Bars, Fulfilled by Conchobair 20 Copper Bars, Fulfilled by Donaliam Conchobair Requests: 20 Small Health Potions, Fulfilled by Blocked Type thing You will enter what you need in the system. Then a crafter or supplier will claim the work order and fulfill it. Once it's claimed it's removed out of the list of open work orders. The user has 2 days to fill it before it becomes available again. All points are awarded upon delivery. The system will log every transaction so if someone does try to scam the system it will say "Hey Ben, look at this doochbag" and they will find a quick trip out of the family. Our family is based on Honor, Respect, Integrity, and Fellowship and scamming the system violates all 4 of those. I will have the system sending emails to users when their items have been mailed. Inside the mail you'll be able to contact both the provider and myself if you have any problems. If by chance you mail the item to the wrong name I can manually clear the work order so that it goes back into the system and nullify the points.

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Replied On: 01/25/2011 at 09:47 AM PST

Sounds quite inventive! I cant wait to see how it turns out. :)

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Foghladha
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Replied On: 02/09/2011 at 03:15 PM PST
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And a bump so i can find this later.

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khy0te
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Replied On: 02/09/2011 at 05:32 PM PST
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Looks like the beginning of a good system Fog. I'll be donating whenever I can. A point for those of use going the runecrafting route... we need to blow up magic items to get our mats, and from what I've seen so far the system is fairly generous but random on what it gives when you blow an item up. I can see how when people request a specific rune we can fill that, easy enough if we have the rune. But we're always an extra step away from our materials than weaponsmiths for example, at least at the beginning (weaponsmith needs tin ore, runecrafter needs tin ore, a weaponsmith, then can get runecrafting mats). Ok, I was babbling through that but I hope it makes sense. So as a runecrafter, should we put in requests for say 20 bronze shortswords? And how would the supply chain work if I have the tin and supply it to the weaponsmith that makes the swords for me? I'm looking at system fairness. I don't want to get an unfair advantage or be unfairly disadvantaged (as I suspect everyone here feels the same about being unfairly advantaged or disadvantaged). Balance is the key. Again I hope this is making sense to someone outside of my brain. Hopefully there was some bit of good idea in there somewhere.

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Replied On: 02/10/2011 at 10:03 AM PST
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just to put things out there in case people want all bases covered, i'll be doing butchery>outfitting+runecrafting.

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Tildi
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Replied On: 02/10/2011 at 11:51 AM PST

Hooray! Tildi was never a crafter in any of the other games, always just a gatherer. She will be happy to drop off raw materials into the vault. All the Best.

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Replied On: 02/10/2011 at 12:10 PM PST
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I'm totally excited about the crafting system. I love to craft & gather, so this will be amazing. :)

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Taoiseach de na Arach Glas
Foghladha
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Replied On: 02/10/2011 at 12:26 PM PST
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I've gotten Runecrafting in however materials wise they will have to make their own other than the essences. Fullfilling orders will gain you a metric ton of Family Vault credits which you can order a weapon just to salvage it.

» Edited on: 2011-02-10 12:32:14

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khy0te
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Replied On: 02/10/2011 at 02:49 PM PST
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@Fog ok cool, I think I see how you've worked it out. Nice work =)

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Deft
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Replied On: 02/10/2011 at 09:26 PM PST

Does the guild vault have a drive through window? ;)

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