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Ixeletihw
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Posted On: 09/30/2012 at 10:14 PM
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Ok heres what im looking for, i'm looking for advice on 2 builds. I want one that is good in WvW type pvp and another thats great for PvE. Please take note when i PvE im usually playing with my wife who is a ranger. Any help would be greatly appriciated. Oh and my play style, I enjoy using sword/pistol and then shortbow. THX in advanced guys!

 

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SilasGray
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Replied On: 10/01/2012 at 06:48 AM PDT
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I have used sword pistol/ SB for both the whole time. There may be higher DPS builds but it does provide some control and ability to get out of tight spots which is handy in both instances and PvP. Combined with haste, pistol whip is fairly nasty. My build is 25/30/0/0/15. Mainly built for crit and pure DPS. Note that I mainly do WvW and I realize it can be harder to get pistol whips off on skilled sPvP players. For that I would still say it is a good build, particularly if you can use some other class to provide roots or stuns.

» Edited on: 2012-10-01 06:53:16

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Ixeletihw
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Replied On: 10/02/2012 at 12:08 PM PDT
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ILl have to try this one out in sPvP and see if it meshes with how i play :D thanks SilasGray, i appriciate it.

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PepsiBlue
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Replied On: 10/02/2012 at 12:25 PM PDT
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Im not sure if Silas was the one I talked to about my thief build, but mine is specifically built towards bleeding duration. All 3 superior runes(centaur, afflicted, and krait) have +condition damage, and +15% bleed duration. So the bleed duration is upped by 45%. Constantly stacking bleeding is easy. My sigil from my weapons stack condition dmg, and have a 60% chance on a crit, to cause bleeding (which also gets the +45% duration on it) That with the caltrops when I dodge, and the traits for when i dodge i get might/vigor, and when I evade, I steal a boon, and I get endurance back when I dodge, makes dodging more frequently. And using powers that cause me to dodge, gains initiative back. Makes for some insane DPS/Condition Dmg style. And I crafted the exotic set of carrion armor. So I have an super increased condition dmg stat. I'll post the actual build once i get home. I love it. World vs world is fun. I can easily fight 3 people and kill at least 2 before i have to run. Unless ones a mesmer, then I have to run sooner. :( I like it.

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Mulch
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Replied On: 10/02/2012 at 12:32 PM PDT

I don't feel expert enough to post a build or anything, but... My son and I spent most of our weekend play time doing our thiefs in sPvP. It's fun, fast-paced, and lets you try everything you think you might like at absolutely no cost or effort on your part. Drakhor, after getting 9 kills in a match where the opponents got one kill total, still went back and reset his build to see what else he might do better. Cuz it's fun to tweak around with.

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Rayko
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Replied On: 10/03/2012 at 03:09 AM PDT
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SilasGray
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Replied On: 10/03/2012 at 06:36 AM PDT
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That is very, very close to my build. I do use infiltrators strike for the initial shadowstep since it gives me a quick escape if needed. My biggest problem is accidental double tapping it. I also use the human hounds elite since they provide a ton of aoe and I only pop them when being overwhelmed. Haste also rocks if the person drops as it speeds up the finish them move to near instant. I have been playing with set pieces and runes since I felt I was a bit too squishy. Going pure dps is truly a glass cannon.

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Rayko
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Replied On: 10/03/2012 at 11:13 AM PDT
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With my build you actually do a nice bit of damage when you steal, which is why I use that over Infiltrator's Strike. I will have to give the hounds a try and see how well that works with this build. I love me some AOE but this build is about killing one target( or 2-3 if right in front of you) very quickly, and the Thieves Guild ability calls in 2 single target DPS'ers. This build is squishier than some builds but if you are aggressive, dodge well and think on your feet, then this build could be good set up for you.

» Edited on: 2012-10-03 13:06:47

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Statesman
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Replied On: 10/03/2012 at 01:04 PM PDT

I am using this build: http://www.gw2db.com/skills/calc/thief#10|0|2642|2788|6677|3997|4485|30|1738|1714|1708|0|0|0|0|20|2199|2387|0|20|2353|1692|0|0|0|0|0|19|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0| I don't post it on other forums because it is very powerful. It is not sword + pistol, but rather pistol + dagger. This is a very good roamer build for WvW because you can get places very quickly, and I rarely lose a 1 on 1 or even 1 v 2, and I'm only 75. It uses venoms as a passive health regen, and bleeds for damage. This build has a good synergy with Shortbow.

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Mulch
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Replied On: 10/03/2012 at 01:25 PM PDT

The pistol-whip, if you could pull it off, is scary amount of damage. But your target is gonna pop their stun-remover and leave you self-rooted and swinging at air. re: Finish them Drakhor clued me into this. Go stealth and you can finish them without them getting an interrupt off or escaping.

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Hexamex
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Replied On: 10/28/2012 at 02:07 PM PDT
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Statesman - your build link doesn't work for me - shows a blank character

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Susulemon
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Replied On: 10/28/2012 at 02:36 PM PDT

@ Mulch you can't break a stun if the stunner is stealthed? almost sounds like a bug or do u mean since u go in stealthed, you can daze them before they realize anything

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Ruwund
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Replied On: 10/28/2012 at 04:54 PM PDT
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@mulch you can break your swing barrage by either dodge rolling forward (obviously you can't if you used haste)or sheathing your weapon--have that hot keyed for use :). The dodge roll forward will close distance if they tried to run and give you the ability to PW them again :) If you used haste and they broke the stun then sheathe and close distance how you think best are reapply PW :) Those are the two ways that i am aware of to get out of the midair dance of 0 damageness....lol i also have accidentally hit PW expecting to close the distance ..lol...so i used to be a dagger/pistol player and my number 3 was my close the distance ability...hehe

» Edited on: 2012-10-28 16:55:08

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Susulemon
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Replied On: 10/28/2012 at 07:20 PM PDT

@Ruwund i was totally looking for the sheathe option! but i never found it initially so i thought it didn't exist, now i know it exists and found it, i have slight hopes for the pistol/sword again for 1v1 :P .... i mean, its still unfortunate if you have to waste initiative and not land the PW due to then stun breaking, but for other skills they have the option to dodge roll as well, where they can't when immobilized, so it might even out...

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Kraas
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Replied On: 10/30/2012 at 09:59 AM PDT

Personally, I always use Infiltrator's Strike for my gap-closer for two reasons; 1. It includes an immobilize. 2. Gives you the option to 'shadow return' if/when the situation looks ugly or you need condition removal. Steal is instant and can be used anytime, even while already activating/using another skill. I think it is most valuable as an on-demand damage (with Mug trait) and buff (Fury, Might, Swiftness, Vigor, plus two random buffs taken from the enemy) when traited. Also, after you've initiated your Infiltrator's Strike + Pistol Whip + Haste combo, you can use Steal during the initial pistol stun animation to teleport you to your enemy, almost guaranteeing that you will land the stun. Basically, if during a fight I think to myself, 'wow, I'm really on top of this guy, I need a little more DPS to finish him off', THAT's when I'll use Steal.

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Kingdeath
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Replied On: 11/02/2012 at 02:13 AM PDT

If you are looking for more information on thief builds for spvp or wvw please send me a tell. I have played an extensive amount of spvp with a thief and have ran probably a dozen builds or more. I would be happy to explain some of them to you and how the runes work for each build and why. All this can be applied to pve as considering runes are the same across the board for a lvl 80. Some of the builds I have played include: S/p d/d backstab s/p sb full dps/mobility d/d Sb backstab/mobility p/p d/p Venom single target p/p shortbow Venom group buff spec Don't hesitate to send me.

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Cargan
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Replied On: 11/06/2012 at 05:14 PM PST
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Using 10/30/0/0/30 D/D SoM/SoA/er the one that increase run speed ;) Most fights caltrops 3.3.3 steal 3.3 step/evade back and watch the pretty fountain of numers as things die, loot. Most of your time is spent airborne in DB so your not getting hit 15+ stacks of bleed and + condition gear and things melt Might not havethe upfront damage of back stab builds but you dont have to rely on being stealthed or behind a target. Some times run S/P which is nice if you need to keep some thing blind for a group SB i find about as fun as watching paint dry. Best spec = the one you find fun i find being and airborne kitty of bleeding death fun other might not

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Azyurel
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Replied On: 11/06/2012 at 07:16 PM PST

There is an awesome guide on Guildwars2guru located here http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/45902-lowells-ultimate-spvp-thief-guide-wip/ I have used a good number of these builds and they are all very competitive in sPvP, WvW, and viable in PvE. The guy put quite a bit of effort in that guide and it's a wealth of knowledge.

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Susulemon
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Replied On: 11/06/2012 at 09:11 PM PST

Ahh he didn't cover a Sword/Dagger from the looks of it, I've had a lot of success on this weapon set lately, here is my build: http://www.gaiscioch.com/tavern/guildwars_guides/post_42580.html

» Edited on: 2012-11-06 23:06:20

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